He said: "He used to talk about how hard it was to earn a living back then and how scarce the money always was. It was hard to have a family and to travel the way they did all the time. There wasn't really any place that was home because they never stopped in any one place long enough to even, maybe, remember the names of the places they passed through. He said that the kids were the ones who were the happiest, but it was hard on them. They didn't really get much in the way of schooling and they had to work just like everyone else. He said that his father had tried many times to find work some place else, but nothing lasted for too long, so them he's have to move on to the next place, just like he'd always done. Being a musician in a big band wasn't like being in a band now. It was more like being in the circus, but instead of the freak show, there was the bandstand."

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